Bad Company 2

[Magnus]

Now, I know what the veterans around here are gonna say, but goddamnit if the production value for this game looks sweet.

AND

Its for PC as well, I don't know what the MP is like, but it looks hella fun. Its interesting to note that this game sounds dead sexy, I think a lot of games have neglected the sound of a game and what it adds to the experience. The part where they enter the building sounded pretty cool.

[joe]

bad company is what, basically co-op BF2 with a linear storyline? could be fun, too bad BC1 was only for consoles

[Sizzler]

It has a single player, but it's primarily a multiplayer game. It's pretty much a console version of battlefield

regenerating health, instant respawns, run and gun gameplay and all that sort of thing. Probably more serious than Battlefield: Heroes but far less serious than BF2

There's a beta coming this December on PC, looking forward to trying it out if I can get a key

[NIPPER]

It looks like BF2 with much better graphics and whatnot. Which is awesome.

Listen to the sound in these videos it's incredible:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/battl ... -bad/57023
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/battl ... -bad/59222

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/arica ... -bad/58728

[AMMO]

It looks like CoD with vehicles and destroyable environments. This looks so cool.

[Magnus]

Damn, in that last video where the humvee slides over on its side, man so bad ass. The one thing I think they did a good job on was there sound engine they put into the frostbite engine, sounds so good.

[joe]

omg i just watched those videos. they are a perfect example of everything that is wrong with gaming
no time to stop and plan strategy
total chaos/weapon spam
regen health/invisible health

i like games where people with better strategy/tactics can beat people who spam weapons mindlessly but this looks like the opposite, like TF2

[NIPPER]

omg i just watched those videos. they are a perfect example of everything that is wrong with gaming
no time to stop and plan strategy

haha what the hell? You want them to show people back at spawn looking at the battle map in a promo video?

here is a much less impressive video for you to enjoy joe: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ps3-b ... -bad/59321
Featuring a guy holding use while standing still - the stuff you love joe

Also just like 2142, a guy oblivious to the fact that a teammate is trying to repair his tank:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ps3-b ... -bad/59323

It's not any more spammy than BF2/2142 was. Also what the hell? All you do when you're on foot in 2142 is spam fire with the LMGs.

[Magnus]

HOLY SHIT DID YOU SEE THAT PROGRESS BAR?

FUCK it didnt care WHO was arming it!

[AMMO]

holy shit this game looks awesome

[Sizzler]

I don't have high hopes for this game. Console gamers who are expecting it to be MW2 but on a larger scale are going to be disappointed because it doesn't play at all like MW2, and PC gamers expecting smart paced gameplay are going to be disappointed because of the brainless gameplay changes. I could definitely see BC2 being a "fun for a month" sort of game.

[Magnus]

I really like the destructible terrain, that is what I've mostly want in the next BF it opens up a lot of tactical options.

I mean what they are showing there is over the top, but if they accurately applied it correctly, like, M203 launchers only punching small, if any holes in concrete then it would be awesome.

[joe]

it seems like a few games have been gigantic hits on consoles (halo series, gears of war, cod series, etc.) making hundreds of millions of dollars, and PC developers all looked at each other for a second and then deleted the complicated tactical/skill based FPS they had been working on and started cranking out casual FPS's. TF2 and L4D are good examples. looks like the BF series might turn out to be another.

i can't blame the devs for wanting to make hundreds of millions instead of tens of millions

i can't blame console gamers for playing console-style FPS.

but i do wonder what's going to happen. are complicated FPS like the old team fortress style games gone forever? or will someone make a giant hit PC FPS that brings back the complex gameplay? somehow i don't ever see that happening

[Sizzler]

predicting this game will be a total grenade launcher fest until months after release when they finally patch it

it seems like a few games have been gigantic hits on consoles (halo series, gears of war, cod series, etc.) making hundreds of millions of dollars, and PC developers all looked at each other for a second and then deleted the complicated tactical/skill based FPS they had been working on and started cranking out casual FPS's. TF2 and L4D are good examples. looks like the BF series might turn out to be another.

Because we all know how deep and complicated Counter-Strike was, and how necessary teamwork was in TF. I don't think TF2 and L4D are good examples at all.

Battlefield has been on consoles for a long time, and BF3 is still in production (Bad company 1 was supposedly the "testing bed" for their new engine) so I doubt they are really planning on abandoning anything

edit

Okay so the beta is starting some time december, but only for people with PREORDERS. There is no way I'm going to preorder through their shitty online steam-wannabe service.

BF2 is on steam now though. Hopefully EA gets their heads out of their asses and releases more stuff on steam

[NIPPER]

Because we all know how deep and complicated Counter-Strike was, and how necessary teamwork was in TF. I don't think TF2 and L4D are good examples at all.

haha, this is the biggest hole in that argument. CS was what started the whole "modern generic simple shooter" thing and we all played the hell out of it because it was fun. Not because it was some ground breaking innovative game. The concept and gameplay was so simple you could make just about any map for it and it would work

And did you complain about TFC joe? TF2 is just as spammy and complex as TFC was.


Also people who have never played X-com really need to shut up about how great PC gaming used to be.