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So, I have never been a big fighting game person. I play smash rarely, but that's about it. Oh and dive kick, but i don't get the jokes. Anyway I saw this article and I am interested in this game. The main selling point to me us that you don't have to learn special moves. I'm not too hot on free to play games, so I'm a little weary about that aspect. There is an online alpha at the end of the month, and here is the sign up link.

http://www.risingthunder.com/register

interesting to see the dropping of technicality

I don't really follow the fighting game scene (wooo evo), but smash has had this similar move away from technicality. melee is fantastically technical - there are a lot of extremely precise and quick inputs required, especially at a top level. many top players even have hand problems, unfortunately.

Brawl/ssb4 are a complete step in the opposite direction - they have a generous input buffer and generally require far less technical skill than melee. the result is that the community is divided pretty heavily between melee fans who love its technicality and brawl/ssb4 fans who don't see the point in needless execution barriers. there is a good deal of strife between the two camps, unfortunately, but each group is growing faster than ever before.

dmitri ravinoff wrote:interesting to see the dropping of technicality

THIS KILLS THE VIDEO GAMES

I wasn't really talking about technicality, I was talking about button combos for special moves, quarter-circle back a b kinda stuff. I actually prefer melee to 4, but that is probably because that is the one I know more. I kinda like games with precise inputs, like dark souls. From the article it seems like this game wants to stay technical, in this definition, but I suppose that remains to be seen.

@MrBlip yeah I also greatly prefer melee/PM over brawl/ssb4

@rottencheeseCA how technical are traditional fighters? eg SF, MK, etc. Are they comparable to melee in terms of precise, quick button pressing?

If I ever met a person who had hand problems because of too much smash bros I'm not really sure how I would react.

So, I got into the alpha. Game is pretty fun. The special moves work on a timer, which makes sense I guess. Being someone who doesn't know fighting games, I am a little over a 1:1 win lose ratio, so that is a sign that what they are trying is working. Been playing as Talos, who is a grappler character and have been doing alright as long as I don't get projectile spammed.

Isn't input execution like, half the thing with fighting games? I guess it's nice they're trying to make something more accessible for boneheads like me who suck at that sort of thing, but doesn't that boil things down to a glorified rock-paper-scissors with the cooldown timer being the singular wrench in the cog? The dexterity element feels like an inextricable part of the genre.

Hellboy wrote:inextricable

Great SAT word. But I'm glad to have a real fighting game person's opinion. It doesn't feel like rock paper scissors to me, but I am one of the aforementioned boneheads. When I fight someone who is carbon I rank (hasn't won a single game yet) I win every time for the most part, so it isn't just a button basher.

just played a match with someone named KoD. Was it the real one? I won, so maybe.

Triple post. Game is now in open technical alpha. Just go to risingthunder.com and sign up. Give it a try, if you want.

How obese are your fingers?

Jason wrote:If I ever met a person who had hand problems because of too much smash bros I'm not really sure how I would react.

*waves

Hellboy wrote:Isn't input execution like, half the thing with fighting games? I guess it's nice they're trying to make something more accessible for boneheads like me who suck at that sort of thing, but doesn't that boil things down to a glorified rock-paper-scissors with the cooldown timer being the singular wrench in the cog? The dexterity element feels like an inextricable part of the genre.

Consider a more casual aspect a fighting game might want to get right "Gratifying the player with the fastest reaction times".
Even if your input is impeccable on a dexterity level , you gotta consider the input process of info that is going on with your brain.

That's why, some of the most popular casual games in human history are reaction based like pinball, flappy bird, call of duty, supermario, baseball, etc.
Because, fast reaction times are totally a naturalistic skill that can be measured and applied in other fields, like jumping high or having decent grip.
Some people are gonna see fighting games and think "CHESS", in other words all skill but ABSOLUTELY no fun.

In fact this is the trend right now in fighting games, a game like SF4 has had like 3 revisions already (capcom rite) ,but you can clearly notice how much
easier is to win in the latest version of the game, characters move faster, normals are stronger, specials are easier to do. It's like they want to capitalize
into the reaction times idea.