Let's get rid of double overheal

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Should we set overheal back to normal?

Yes
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30%
I would normally vote yes but fuck Mastermind
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No
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43%
 
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Da_man » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:08 pm

Let's just pan Pork Bun and Mastermind. That solves so many problems its not even funny.
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Neelpos » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:44 pm

Mastermind1011 wrote:No medics are fine. Just, you know, set overheal to 100% instead of 200%. Peer pressure compels you!
Then there wouldn't BE overheal, 100% means you'd stop at max health. Default overheal is 150, we have it at 200.
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by dmitri ravinoff » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:33 pm

Porky wrote:Ban medics. Problem solved. :awesome:
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Mastermind1011 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:23 am

Neelpos wrote:
Mastermind1011 wrote:No medics are fine. Just, you know, set overheal to 100% instead of 200%. Peer pressure compels you!
Then there wouldn't BE overheal, 100% means you'd stop at max health. Default overheal is 150, we have it at 200.
Oh don't be pedantic. 100% of what is regular overheal is 0.5x max health. 200% is 1.0x max health. TECHNICALLY CORRECT.
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Sidecutter » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:28 am

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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Mastermind1011 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:49 am

Sidecutter wrote:
Mastermind1011 wrote:Just kidding. Who wants their dick sucked?.
No.
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by bl4nk » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:04 pm

A poll would have been a better use of this thread.
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Mastermind1011 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:33 pm

Democracy is a terrible idea. But if it causes action I suppose I'll start one of those poll whatsits.

Edit: at this time, the poll is 100% MEGA YES. Pretty good evidence, if I do say so myself.
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by tehENEMY » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:08 pm

Wheres I would the I would normally vote yes but fuck mastermind option ?
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Mastermind1011 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:25 pm

tehENEMY wrote:Wheres I would the I would normally vote yes but fuck mastermind option ?
Fixed!
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by tehENEMY » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:07 pm

Beautiful.
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by I_AM_SQUIRREL » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:52 pm

Can we a the option that says:
NO, but still fuck MasterMind
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by rottencheeseCA » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:52 pm

no is the joke answer
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Helpful » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:53 pm

Without double overheal it would be hard to justify playing medic, unless a heavy main poped up.

plz no
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Re: Let's get rid of double overheal

Post by Mastermind1011 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:07 pm

Helpful wrote:Without double overheal it would be hard to justify playing medic, unless a heavy main poped up.

plz no
How does that statement make any sense? In normal, non-modified TF2, medic is the most important class.

Does anyone else remember that time Valve used the TF2 beta to test things? And how they figured they'd test how the game would work out if every class had double health? And they decided it made the heavier classes, particularly, you know, Heavy, way too OP?

Look, the real problem is heavy with double overheal. It's just basic math. Assuming an optimal situation:

Things that can kill a 450 HP Heavy in a single clip: Soldier, Demo, Heavy, Pyro, Engy, Sniper, Spy

Things that can kill a 600 HP Heavy in a single clip: Heavy, Pyro, Spy.

That's the main thing double overheal breaks. For every other class, double overheal is just a bit more health advantage. For heavy, it removes one hard counter outright and severely gimps other classes in ability to kill him by forcing reloads.
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