Hey, let's get rid of double overheal already.

Ian7 · Post by **Ian7** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:31 pm

Archer wrote:We need to go back to 5x overheal and move the server back to California.

+1

Post by **Hippie of doom** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:29 pm

Ian7 wrote:
Archer wrote:We need to go back to 5x overheal and move the server back to California.
+1

Sounds like a plan to me.

timtoborne · Post by **timtoborne** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:44 pm

Hippie of doom wrote:Sounds like a plan to me.

since when do you get an opinion?

Nightwolf · Post by **Nightwolf** » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:03 pm

Hippie of doom wrote:
Ian7 wrote:
Archer wrote:We need to go back to 5x overheal and move the server back to California.
+1
Sounds like a plan to me.

Yeah I miss those days...

Cheddars · Post by **Cheddars** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:22 am

Ian7 · Post by **Ian7** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 3:33 am

Cheddars wrote:bump

shut up and play aoe with me

Tokengekko · Post by **Tokengekko** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:43 am

Ian7 wrote:
Cheddars wrote:bump
shut up and play aoe with me

Aoe when ? also

Post by **Mastermind1011** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:02 pm

We should totally change 2x overheal. It's getting pretty stale. I'd prefer if we set it back to default but barring that we should at least change it to 4x overheal. What could go wrong?

Post by **A Ninja** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:48 pm

The TF4 population would have a collective heart-attack if x2 overheal was removed overnight, you need to ease them into it over time by slowly scaling it down

Post by **I_AM_SQUIRREL** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:12 pm

Nah, I think it would be just a shocker.

Cheddars · Post by **Cheddars** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:19 am

Parasyte wrote:
rottencheeseCA wrote:The major problem has always been that a fully charged headshot is balanced to kill an overhealed heavy in one shot.
Simple fix: Make headshots kill everyone regardless of overheal

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Headshot wrote:a fully charged headshot from the Sniper Rifle will instantly kill any class, including an overhealed Heavy.

Seems like the way to go if this thread amounts to nothing else.

dyl1138 · Post by **dyl1138** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:18 pm

Cheddars wrote:
Parasyte wrote:
rottencheeseCA wrote:The major problem has always been that a fully charged headshot is balanced to kill an overhealed heavy in one shot.
Simple fix: Make headshots kill everyone regardless of overheal

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Headshot wrote:a fully charged headshot from the Sniper Rifle will instantly kill any class, including an overhealed Heavy.
Seems like the way to go if this thread amounts to nothing else.

Unfortunately, the balancing system between sniper rifles makes heavy (see hwat i did there) use of damage buffs and nerfs, meaning that just tacking on extra damage upon reaching full charge would greatly upset that system, along with making bodyshots even more feasible in a server where people seem to adore going airborne. To me, the easiest method would seem to be adding a flat percentage critical damage buff upon reaching full charge to all sniper rifles (no, not the Ambassador, you're a terrible person if you're playing Spyper anyways). Or just get rid of double overheal already.

Arron Dominion · Post by **Arron Dominion** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:23 pm

So that is why the overheals are so weird, the medic from last season was confused by the higher overheal numbers when he joined tf4 last.

Default overheal would allow for snipers to kill the heavies easier from a full charged headshot, and might make it easier on teams having issues with a medic+heavy, medic+demo, or medic+pyro combo.

Archer · Post by **Archer** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:49 pm

Arron Dominion wrote:So that is why the overheals are so weird, the medic from last season [..]

What does that even mean? Last year? Who? You? League of Legends has "seasons", but TF2 doesn't...

dyl1138 · Post by **dyl1138** » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:46 pm

Archer wrote:
Arron Dominion wrote:So that is why the overheals are so weird, the medic from last season [..]
What does that even mean? Last year? Who? You? League of Legends has "seasons", but TF2 doesn't...

Archer look at his sig. The guy plays competitive tf2, which has seasons and teams with designated classes.

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