A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view)

Portal, Left 4 Dead, Half Life. All those good games.
User avatar
marbear
Posts: 685
Joined: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:01 pm
Location: vermont

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by marbear » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:23 am

Neelpos wrote:
marbear wrote:I played plenty enough with you all this summer.
It's April of 2014.
Right, I forgot that L4D2 has changed so much since then.
"Marbear your too stupid...so I don't know what the fuck your thinking."
User avatar
Neelpos
Error 404: Title not found
Posts: 11122
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 6:47 pm
Location: Southern California

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Neelpos » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:24 am

marbear wrote:
Neelpos wrote:
marbear wrote:I played plenty enough with you all this summer.
It's April of 2014.
Right, I forgot that L4D2 has changed so much since then.
You'd be surprised what can happen in 8 months.

You don't have any stake in this. You don't understand. Stop breeding conflict in this thread.
kingscrub wrote:HEY NEELPOS WHY DONT YOU SHOVE THAT RETARDED SMILEYFACE AVATAR UP YOUR ASS.
User avatar
marbear
Posts: 685
Joined: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:01 pm
Location: vermont

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by marbear » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:27 am

Neelpos wrote:
marbear wrote:
Neelpos wrote:
marbear wrote:I played plenty enough with you all this summer.
It's April of 2014.
Right, I forgot that L4D2 has changed so much since then.
You'd be surprised what can happen in 8 months.

You don't have any stake in this. You don't understand. Stop breeding conflict in this thread.
I played in January. It was the same then as it was before, just as it is now.
"Marbear your too stupid...so I don't know what the fuck your thinking."
User avatar
loafozard
XxBaker_RebornxX
Posts: 376
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:13 pm
Location: Texas

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by loafozard » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:42 am

STOP BREEDING CONFLICT IN THIS THREAD
Image
Last edited by loafozard on Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
Sirc001 wrote:Another player along with myself known as loaf of bread or something
Archer wrote:uWu chat daddy
User avatar
Nightwolf
Posts: 4059
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:55 am

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Nightwolf » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:47 am

I for one, welcome our numerical overlords.
Stop breeding conflict in this thread.
SurNim wrote:SPREAD THE LOVE! OR DIE!
Mass Arrests > Suppressed Technologies Released > Finally ET Disclosure
Mass Arrests currently in progress... :toot:
Why.j2 wrote:Keep Try.
User avatar
Glitch
Posts: 327
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:44 am

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Glitch » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:28 am

Neelpos wrote: You don't have any stake in this. You don't understand. Stop breeding conflict in this thread.
It's like Lars Von Trier, John Green and Kanye West collaborated to make the most pretentious thing ever written. I actually ran out of reaction gifs because none of them accurately convey the emotions I feel when reading this.
Holy shit. Grow up.
User avatar
Archer
Posts: 2009
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:55 am
Location: WA

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Archer » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:38 am

Glitch wrote:
Neelpos wrote: You don't have any stake in this. You don't understand. Stop breeding conflict in this thread.
It's like Lars Von Trier, John Green and Kanye West collaborated to make the most pretentious thing ever written. I actually ran out of reaction gifs because none of them accurately convey the emotions I feel when reading this.
Holy shit. Grow up.
Wait. Who are you? Don't you only play on tf4?

EDIT: Also, I see Neelpos' Master Plan to bring the forums back to life through internecine conflict is proceeding according to plan.
Image
User avatar
Neelpos
Error 404: Title not found
Posts: 11122
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 6:47 pm
Location: Southern California

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Neelpos » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:58 am

Hopefully I'm sober enough to explain this as clearly as I can.

The L4D2 players recognize that the game has a competitive aspect to it. Games go on five rounds in a row with the score accumulating until the finale in a game that takes longer than an hour total (on average). This tends to encourage competitiveness more than say, TF2, as each round is for the most part self contained. In recognizing this we also try to have as much fun as we can, stomps aren't fun for either side, but neither is restarting constantly and being unable to get a legitimate game going for over an hour. On occasion we have a night where the atmosphere can't be denied, no one is having fun, the teams aren't balanced, and the effort to get a game going is proving to be more than worth it. People get mad, people leave. We derive enough entertainment from the game to deal with these occasions but at times it can be too much, a person gets fed up.

That person leaves.

I started playing with everyone over the summer and after a while Archer and myself were put in charge of the entire L4D2 side of the community because of how much effort we put into keeping this part of the community alive. I've lost interest in TF2, but I can get a L4D2 game going nearly every night, not only that, I can do it with people I genuinely love playing with. Archer and I maintain the server, and I always try to get as many people as I can in the server, sending PM's and invites to nearly everyone online who is a regular player, or someone I'd like to see become one. When someone gets so fed up with the game that they leave, it feels like we've failed. Our playerbase is much smaller than TF2, every player lost is a significant portion of the base in comparison to TF2. We've had enough bad nights that its time we tried to do something about it, because I'm tired of trying to pull people together who are past the point of letting that happen, it makes them mad, it makes me apathetic.

The idea was posed BY THE L4D2 COMMUNITY to put together a list of all the regular players, and accumulate their publicly available stats. Maybe we could rank by one of those stats, or maybe we could come up with our own formula based on those stats. By building the list we have something to go off of when no agreement can be come to. It's not some mandate, but it's an attempt to curb the problem with team balance that literally every currently active player in the community can attest to. What if it doesn't work? Then we discard it. But I'm not interested in sitting by any longer as this problem continues, I'm trying to fix it with any idea that seems like it could work. Every single person who's put down this idea has been someone not an active member in the L4D2 community. Every person that has come out in support of this is an active member of the L4D2 community. We're just trying to solve a problem we're experiencing internally.

This is the best try we have at the moment.

Pose a better idea, or get the fuck out and quit wasting my fucking time.
kingscrub wrote:HEY NEELPOS WHY DONT YOU SHOVE THAT RETARDED SMILEYFACE AVATAR UP YOUR ASS.
User avatar
Archer
Posts: 2009
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:55 am
Location: WA

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Archer » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:10 am

Also, there are a few points Neelpos might have not mentioned.

This is a project to try and solve the problem of severely imbalanced teams. By having a rough numeric estimate of skill it would help us in the future especially with people that might not know or be able to assess how skilled others are at L4D2. That being said though, the numbers Neel has are not permanently pidgeonholing you into certain skill tiers on L4D2. Numbers don't always reflect being able to think on your feet, or working well enough with other members of your team that you don't need to speak, or being able to rapidly prioritize and deal with multiple targets. However, the statistics that L4D2 does collect can help reveal a player's general skill level in L4D2.

What Neel is trying to do is build a way to get a number indicating a relative level of skill for people who are not experts to be able to create balanced teams. That's it. It's not meant to be personal or call anyone out or anything like that. It's so that everyone can have fun.
Image
User avatar
Sanvich Hoovy
Posts: 1135
Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:39 am
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Sanvich Hoovy » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:49 am

Be sure to make the top players breed to make the left for ded master race
My therapist told me that I gamble in order to escape from the realities of life and I replied that's why everyone does everything. - Norm MacDonald

Image
User avatar
tehENEMY

<b></b>
Posts: 4126
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:37 pm
Location: Florida

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by tehENEMY » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:50 am

Neelpos wrote:Every single person who's put down this idea has been someone not an active member in the L4D2 community. Every person that has come out in support of this is an active member of the L4D2 community.
Hi, this is a bad idea. Driving away new people who suck is a bad idea. Telling "seasonal" players they don't matter is a bad idea.
Neelpos wrote:Our playerbase is much smaller than TF2, every player lost is significant
Neelpos wrote:Pose a better idea
Mics.
"if only there was such a thing as an affordable gaming laptop" ~collin day, 1993 - 2013

Watch Free the Nipple Online Free
He who casts carcinogenic stones should not live in glass meme houses.
User avatar
Grndslmhttr3
these pretzels are making me thirsty
<font color=#004000>these pretzels are making me thirsty</font>
Posts: 8424
Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:43 am
Location: Philly

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Grndslmhttr3 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:25 pm

If you suck, people deserve to know. This is Left 4 Dead, not third grade gym class where everyone wins.
Image
Image
Hellboy wrote:Oh shucks, I forgot to take a nap and went on an online forum and posted about how big my dick is again!
3DS Friend Code: 1435-5380-2533
User avatar
Nightwolf
Posts: 4059
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:55 am

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by Nightwolf » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:15 pm

Majority rules.
SurNim wrote:SPREAD THE LOVE! OR DIE!
Mass Arrests > Suppressed Technologies Released > Finally ET Disclosure
Mass Arrests currently in progress... :toot:
Why.j2 wrote:Keep Try.
User avatar
loafozard
XxBaker_RebornxX
Posts: 376
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:13 pm
Location: Texas

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by loafozard » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:51 pm

Joe.to:
Image

Civilized gaming community:
Image
http://www.battle-brothers.net/home

(shamelessly plugging another community FTW)
Sirc001 wrote:Another player along with myself known as loaf of bread or something
Archer wrote:uWu chat daddy
prolix
Posts: 2278
Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 6:46 pm

Re: A little somethin (L4D2, all current players please view

Post by prolix » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:58 pm

1. Not on the list
2. Honesty expected
3. Other people on list I've never even fucking heard of nor part of actual community.


Sin level = Sixtywattman's watermelon picture
Post Reply