To chshrkat or kat:
Nice to hear from some old old timers. I knew joe from the late 90s, or a couple of years after your first interaction. I suspect that since you were doing spacebar, you actually met him for the first time at one of the physical spacebar meetings, is that correct? So you knew him in real life too and hanged out in the 90s?
To the site admins:
About the joe.to domain name. It's interesting to notice that the Tonga registry allows for any non-contractual parties to contribute towards the yearly fees of someone else's domain name. Does any of the site admins or anyone else other than joe actually have the information/passwords/access to alter the domain properties and DNS linkages, or is that joe is still marked as the owner? If no one else has access to DNS linkage than joe, then the admins or possible bidders for extra years should be careful of not to buy into too distant future to anticipate the possible need to change DNS linkage, unknown technological changes, or other critical changes in properties sometime in the future. What I mean, is that if you buy it for 20 years and do not control the properties at all, something could theoretically happen that would make the site stop working due to bad linkage x years from now before that 20 years is up. If x would be 7, then the site could be inoperable starting from that point for a period of 13 years. Just a thought.
To the rest of you and any possible future visitors to this post:
UPDATE ON THE SEARCH:
IMPORTANT NOTE: This community is fundamentally a gaming community and as such it is periodically flushed with new hoards of kids wanting to connect while playing games that the people on this site play at any given point in time. Most games here are violent, so violence is probably not something foreign to the gamers of this community. Still, being that this discussion revolves around a real person and real events, young children might have difficulty of regulating their emotions in an appropriate way and might feel distressed about certain aspects of reality. Therefore, I do not recommend that anyone who is very sensitive emotionally or an inappropriately young person as to not have the mental facilities to comprehend and regulate emotions, would read past this point. The reason for this is that I'm going to be extremely blunt.
In Summary: If you are a sensitive or young person, please do not read any further.
The situation is that all of the leads have dried up. joe has intentionally completely disappeared. All prior information and signs point to a scenario that joe is dead. He is likely in pieces of bones and skull partly covered by dirt and/or foliage somewhere in the desert or the mountains.
If anyone has information to contradict this conclusion, please come forward and private message me or use other means (remember to respect sensitive information of parties involved if using a public medium).
I would like to add to this my own thoughts. In my opinion joe was a remarkable person in the scale of all humanity. joe was very lucky in some aspects of his life and incredible things happened to him. Then again, in many other aspects he was very unlucky. In essence, you could make a Hollywood movie out of his life, and no one would believe it really happened. The greatest pitfall of joe was that he was a wise man. I don't mean quick wits or great memory, which is not that special. Being wise, is something beyond being smart. It's about understanding how the world works that is about understanding how systems operate and which is what and why. Analyzing things, and never quitting on that analysis. In essence he was a curious mind reading intensively and while doing so living in his own brain, but still exploring the world. The world of thoughts and thinking. However, the classic problem of being even a moderately seasoned person is that you see the world how it really is: a stupid and sad place that is completely meaningless. Obviously, with this revelation it is very difficult for any wise yet caring individual to remain upbeat in this vulgar environment. And joe was never upbeat. Though, in spite of these things, he tried to pursue a happy life for himself and sometimes almost succeeded, even for brief moments in time, but maybe those moments were just not enough. Then again, you could say it all comes down to money too. If someone would have funded joe to read his books, drive his porsche, play his games, and to explore his inner thoughts in solitude for several decades, then I would have seen few problems for him to live for a very long time and die of old age. Unfortunately, that was not the case. It says a lot about the value base of the culture and most cultures of the world in which hobo joes exist and most people strive every day of their existence. It is common to these cultures and societies that the people are instilled with resolve and determination at birth and/or later on in life, in order to sustain through adversity, which was perhaps something that never transpired in joe's early life or something that he later refused to accept. As joe could have known that it was the very nature of this instilling process to come with an enormous price, maybe the highest price that there is. When someone pays that price, it makes them harder or less caring. But the worst part of it is that if that someone pays the price, then that person will not even get to learn the existence of the price concept. At the end of it all, I would like to believe that joe knew that price very well. Perhaps, precisely. And if you really think about it, then maybe and only just maybe, you can see that this thing alone made him kinder and gentler than most machine gun hands.
hopefully not a final message on this matter and hopefully not the truth,
sureshot 510 of the bay area forever