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Re: Q Anon

Post by Neelpos » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:45 pm

People not taking interest in the fantasy you've constructed around an already interesting bit of history in order to make it insane doesn't make them ignorant, it makes them uninterested in your weird role-play.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by narwal » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:09 pm

Neelpos wrote:People not taking interest in the fantasy you've constructed around an already interesting bit of history in order to make it insane doesn't make them ignorant, it makes them uninterested in your weird role-play.
^^^^^
Fantasy or not, it's ridiculous and irrelevant to most people's lives. People have to worry about what their kids are doing, or how their job's going - not about obscure experiments. It's a shame that we don't have much time for research into things like this, I truly think the world and society would be better for it.

I'm not saying MK Ultra isn't true. I'm not even down playing it's importance. I'm just telling you why nobody seems to listen to the news you find so pressing - because to most people, it isn't. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to opinion. I find it quite interesting, actually, that people don't pay attention to or seem to mindlessly allow the cover-up of MK Ultra and similar extremely shady shit the government has done.

To call me ignorant was rude, but I forgive you. You often find yourself backed into a corner by the majority on topics you truly believe should be more important, so it's expected that you lash out - like an animal, completely unaware of it's irrelevance but fiercely fighting for the world it believes in.

It's almost admirable.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by narwal » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:13 pm

Nightwolf wrote:Thank you for acknowledging your ignorance, please do me or anyone on any topic that you are uninformed, to do your homework. Please. Also you don't need the government to tell you to become educated individual.
Also, this was a bitch to read. You left out the word "favor" from the first sentence - not to mention how poorly structured it is. The ending was equally strange. Perhaps you should "need the government to tell you to become educated individual."
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Re: Q Anon

Post by otterfiend » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:54 am

I HAVE CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF THIS MIND CONTROL DEVICE!!!!1one

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Re: Q Anon

Post by otterfiend » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:31 am

More shocking news: Sanctions against tactics using Mind Control were removed on the 5th this month! Who can stop these MADMEN in the shadow realm of the government?!

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Re: Q Anon

Post by Django » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:06 am


More proof of MK ULTRA
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Re: Q Anon

Post by Nightwolf » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:21 am

Neel, I didn't construct this fantasy as you call it, also if you are uninterested in it there's no need to comment. Unless you wished to give your opinion, then your are interested. I appreciate that you at least know somethings and are educated, on some issues.

Narwal, you're right I do get tired. I called you ignorance not as an insult but as you clearly stated it was a fact. I had no negative emotions to that word when I said it. As you saw what I was trying to say was please research if you wish to have a civil discussion I'd love to.

Discussion forms are hopefully for, dare I say, it for discussions. Except everyone clearly doesn't want to share research ask questions openly without ridicule or simply ask why did this happen? Where is the evidence? Why are they destroying the evidence? The most recent case is the school shooting in Florida they will be demolishing the building. Columbine still has their school up, and you can at least see footage of them going in. In these cases if you, actually listen to the students they say shit like, "Police were firing blanks." Or having drills that day. Weeeeird random shit, also some Sheriffs didn't even show up.

With the Las Vegas shooting again, hardly any video evidence. Multiple people said multiple gun shooter official narrative was wrong on a couple grave mistakes and actually had to change it.

And yet, still, people believe their shit.

I can even go back with the Plane crash at the Pentagon, again no video evidence. Its been like what 17 years what kind of national security are they trying to save? People are still uneducated about building 7.

So many cover up, so many times.

Yes, I am the conspiracy theory nut here because I actually ask questions. I question why they don't share the evidence with the public. I question that they already have video evidence of the same faces showing up after shootings talking to big news organizations like CNN, MSMBC all those big names. I question that those big news organizations actually try to tell the students what to say and what specific questions they wish to ask.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... ?cid=bitly

Ask yourself does CNN have a history of giving people lines to say? Is there evidence of this? Why then, could it be manipulation?

And still people believe their shit.

If people have any sense of memory never once before the last election did Trump have any ties with Russia, but during the election and after for about a year he was painted as a traitor. And now less than a month, since the FISA Memo came out now they change their story its Russia Bots, Ads whatever.

The real problem here are then the people who resort to name calling or ridicule like the last few post. I try to post my threads under Mature Discussion but it gets moved to other. I want an actual discussion where we ask questions and leave the ridicule behind us, I ask the mods here if there are any left to do something about this but, they seem biased and I have rarely been helped with it. I've even asked to be a mod for the forums, I know I have my opinions, but I've always been fair, as a admin on the servers. Which is the important thing.

And finally, Django yes good job researching, you're getting closer. Thats fantasy though keep trying bud, I'm sure you'll find it eventually.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by mbaxter » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:03 am

Nightwolf wrote:Where is the evidence? Why are they destroying the evidence? The most recent case is the school shooting in Florida they will be demolishing the building. Columbine still has their school up, and you can at least see footage of them going in. In these cases if you, actually listen to the students they say shit like, "Police were firing blanks." Or having drills that day. Weeeeird random shit, also some Sheriffs didn't even show up.
Nightwolf wrote:With the Las Vegas shooting again, hardly any video evidence. Multiple people said multiple gun shooter official narrative was wrong on a couple grave mistakes and actually had to change it.
Eyewitness reports aren't reliable? People trying to get a handle on the situation may initially report conflicting or false information? We've had these conversations before, but you refuse to believe that people experiencing stressful situations can make mistakes.

As for demolishing the building, I'd want to demolish the memory of a horrific event. Presumably the police will have collected the crime scene evidence prior ;)
Nightwolf wrote:I can even go back with the Plane crash at the Pentagon, again no video evidence. Its been like what 17 years what kind of national security are they trying to save? People are still uneducated about building 7.
I feel like we had this "plane too fast to show up in video at X fps" conversation before but I can't find it! I'm sorry.

As for building seven, here's some education on it - https://www.webcitation.org/5pvOUTcar?u ... 8_2006.htm
Nightwolf wrote:I question that they already have video evidence of the same faces showing up after shootings talking to big news organizations like CNN, MSMBC all those big names. I question that those big news organizations actually try to tell the students what to say and what specific questions they wish to ask.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... ?cid=bitly

Ask yourself does CNN have a history of giving people lines to say? Is there evidence of this? Why then, could it be manipulation?

And still people believe their shit.
CNN released the full emails, showing that the email Fox showed was a doctored email (my vote is blaming the dad, not Fox, based on the "background info" that was written.
Blog/opinion article linked because it was the fastest I could get to the non-opinion factual emails: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/er ... a-student/

Nightwolf wrote:If people have any sense of memory never once before the last election did Trump have any ties with Russia, but during the election and after for about a year he was painted as a traitor.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

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Most notably, Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr. made that very claim at a real estate conference in New York in 2008, saying “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” Donald Trump Jr. added, “we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
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That's one of many many instances, documented conveniently in that article I linked you to. This sort of stuff didn't come up until Trump was a legitimate contender because nobody really cared until he wanted to run the government.
Nightwolf wrote:And now less than a month, since the FISA Memo came out now they change their story its Russia Bots, Ads whatever.
No, it's just another piece of the puzzle. Russian bots have been a story for a while now, per report declassified a year ago.
Nightwolf wrote:The real problem here are then the people who resort to name calling or ridicule like the last few post. I try to post my threads under Mature Discussion but it gets moved to other. I want an actual discussion where we ask questions and leave the ridicule behind us, I ask the mods here if there are any left to do something about this but, they seem biased and I have rarely been helped with it.
I am not going to take your conversations as "mature" when your responses can be summarized as:
  • You need to do more research!
  • Your researched sources are lying!
  • Everyone is telling lies except these sources I say you should read/listen to/watch.
  • Trust some random youtuber over trusted journalists!
  • People can't be trusted, except the ones I trust.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by Nightwolf » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:05 pm

1) I agree Eyewitnesses are not reliable, release the videos so everyone can see the truth. Why don't they just release it? Like I said you can watch Columbine, but not Florida or other shootings. With columbines' students the stories were straight at least. Now in at least the last 2 major shootings they are not? Why is that? Is one lying? Which side is perpetuating that lie? Why must CNN tell what the survivors must say?

2) CNN emails... yeah heres something.



Whats that? It's illegal? Why would the claim this? Then they said it, don't research it, don't look into it. It doesn't get any more direct than that.

God CNN has been caught in so many lies its unfathomable that people listen to them still. This anchor is more, "Unbiased and Reliable" than CNN will ever be, and shes a cat.



Bonus points: it goes and talks about how CNN had to retract stories about Trump Jr. and fired 3 journalist aka liars.

3) I know, you won't find any footage of the plane in flight. Only something hitting the pentagon. This nicely sums up all the holes on that day.



4) What happened to the Russia hacking? What happened to DNC? Why did CNN's Donna Brazil leave? Was there collusion there? Why did Bernie drop out of the race if he was the people's choice? What's Hillary's History like?

Getting back to topic. This was about Q Anon, now the point that I put it under current events is that whether you believe it to be real or not, it was a current event. It's actually happening as we speak he's still posting stuff. Is it contraversial? Yes, which is why anyone who is interested to have a place to discuss his post if they want to participate in that thread. Moving it to other was a biased decision. When I started this thread I left it open to what people thought.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by narwal » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:38 pm

I used to respect you to some degree. You used to post interesting shit about aliens, even some other off-the-wall shit, and you always defended it amidst a sea of challenges.

But you've gone full alt-right Alex Jones conspiretard, and that's a shame.

You keep saying I've done no research. I have. Nothing I have said points to any situation in which I haven't done my research. I said "people". I meant random fucking people. Average people. Not me. I actually know a LOT about MK Ultra, I find it fascinating. I have done my research.

But you haven't. You berate CNN's lies and then literally lie to US by claiming "Trump had no Russian ties before the election". Your "research" is Q Anon. You don't know shit about shit.

Bax's final point couldn't have been better said.

Also, because you don't know shit about shit I'll teach you something about why Bernie dropped out of the race: he was advertised as a socialist and was berated by his competition for being such. There's a massive portion of the American population that thinks socialism=communism and thought of Bernie as a commie. And America isn't going to vote for a commie. That, and the money and experience behind Clinton's political ground game was a massive hurdle to jump.

It wasn't some insane conspiracy. It was politics.

Please do myself and everyone here a favor and do your research if you want to have intellectual discussions. Please.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by Django » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:47 pm

So very convenient for night-wolf that all of these events are related through their links with government conspiracy: 9/11, trump election, wikileaks, fake news,etc. They all paint the same picture: the United States' government is bad and deceiving us behind our backs, as opposed to the more accurate the United States' government is bad and is deceiving us in plain sight .

Biased innate distrust for governments/organisations and deliriums of persecution by a government/organization are among the key personality traits of a conspiracy theorist. You talk about facts and documents, when in reality you are being instinctually exploited these conspiracy theorist, as in they are exploiting an instinct within you. Don't let them get to you, break the cycle rise above.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by Nightwolf » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:38 pm

I see now what you meant Narwal, I misunderstood what you said. I do apologize for that. Also I couldn't be an Alex Jones Conspiratard because I don't watch him. I come to those conclusions myself. Over the years.

Django, I would appreciate it if you don't go talking like you know how I think. I distrust things for reasons. Exploiting instinct? If you want to go into human behavior look at this.



So you'd know I wouldn't. I would go to the secretary and ask her why they are doing this.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by Django » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:35 pm

Ideologizing cultural norms (in the USA no less) to biological ideas like in that video is not a satisfactory way of comparing animals to humans. Remember, we humans are not separate or analogous things to animals ,but represent the highest degree of animality.

Also, i don't like going around getting personal on how people think ,but i find impossible to discuss conspiracy theories without
looking at the horse by the teeth . Or in this case, the wolf by the canines.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by Nightwolf » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:21 am

It's just how I've always been man. Even when I was small I would always ask the same thing, " But why mom?" It was something my parents hated. I always wanted to know the reasons for things. It's still a part of me to this day.

Asking why shouldn't be looked down upon, nor should trying to see if there really is a big picture. Scoffing at the notion, and calling anyone who tries to question things a conspiracy theorist, how did it get like this? I used to believe in government and the news at one point, until something did happen in my life.
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Re: Q Anon

Post by marbear » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:21 pm

Nightwolf wrote:It's just how I've always been man. Even when I was small I would always ask the same thing, " But why mom?" It was something my parents hated. I always wanted to know the reasons for things. It's still a part of me to this day.

Asking why shouldn't be looked down upon, nor should trying to see if there really is a big picture. Scoffing at the notion, and calling anyone who tries to question things a conspiracy theorist, how did it get like this? I used to believe in government and the news at one point, until something did happen in my life.
Nightwolf, I don't think that anyone here is trying to berate you for asking why. I think it's important to be skeptical and examine the facts from all angles. I think that the larger issue is that with some issues you're perhaps not going to enough sources. You're saying that you don't trust the news but you're taking certain sites at face value instead of then researching whether that info can be validated.

Personally, I find that NPR handles the why and how of most topics pretty well... not sure how much of their news you listen to. If you're interested in learning more about Trump/Russia, there's a pretty interesting series within the Embedded podcast that I think you might be interested in, as it does a good job of putting pieces together: https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510311/embedded
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