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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by A Ninja » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:56 pm

I just want to say, I'm a bit upset that Nightwolf made it easy for you guys with the Hysteria thing, I spent a good few hours digging through old posts of his for crazy conspiracy stuff, and then he just hands you that easy pitch. I mean come on guys, telekenesis, 9/11, ghosts, UFOs?
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Fufuberry » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:34 am

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I know I'm not sexist and I can't say or do anything to prove you otherwise.
I've never ever considered you sexist until your comment regarding Yatta. My point is that apologizing or even *acknowledging* your use of hysteria as a sexist slur (even if you didn't know at the time-- you've learned this by now) would go a long way in demonstrating that you get why it's not okay. That you would stand up to others if you see them behaving similarly on behalf of your female friends. Its the easiest thing you could do to prove me otherwise and earn yourself a win.
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Post by Fufuberry » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:58 am

A Ninja wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:56 pm
I just want to say, I'm a bit upset that Nightwolf made it easy for you guys with the Hysteria thing, I spent a good few hours digging through old posts of his for crazy conspiracy stuff, and then he just hands you that easy pitch. I mean come on guys, telekenesis, 9/11, ghosts, UFOs?
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Nightwolf » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:55 am

Fufuberry wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:34 am
Nightwolf wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:18 pm
I know I'm not sexist and I can't say or do anything to prove you otherwise.
I've never ever considered you sexist until your comment regarding Yatta. My point is that apologizing or even *acknowledging* your use of hysteria as a sexist slur (even if you didn't know at the time-- you've learned this by now) would go a long way in demonstrating that you get why it's not okay. That you would stand up to others if you see them behaving similarly on behalf of your female friends. Its the easiest thing you could do to prove me otherwise and earn yourself a win.
I honestly don't know how to talk to you on this. I've told you many times I'm not sexist, and have shown the word hysterical isn't sexist. Treating someone different based on what ever is wrong. That is the principle of sexism, racism and any other ism's on the same boat. You're treating me different based on a word that it never even crossed my mind to use as a sexist slur. And I will reiterate the word isn't sexist.

So based on the same principle of treating people differently you are doing me the same injustice you believe I've committed. When I have explicitly shown I have not.

I treat everybody equally.

PS. Looking for apologies online or asking for them that's sure is something. The entire time I've been here I don't think I've ever asked for an apology from anybody who have made fun of me for thinking differently. Even when I pleaded for the forum mods earlier for a little... how to say it... keeping the discussions to the facts rather than making fun of me. I still never asked, because people don't behave that way, or most if not all aren't that kind. You're not the only one who has had someone treat you differently based on something. Just look at Ninja egging people on to make fun of me based on my beliefs. Literally 2 posts above this one. If me not knowing saying a word has caused you harm, that would be innocence on my behave. Ninja on the other hand is willful maliciousness. And he isn't the first one on this forum, nor will he probably be the last.
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Nightwolf » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:17 pm



So now I know where Yatta got that catch-phrase, psy-oped word "Radicalized."

I don't watch news especially CNN. Which is why I was so confused as to where that word came from... now I know.
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Post by narwal » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:11 pm

radicalization is a very real thing and your denial in understanding that and saying she "got it from CNN" is concerning
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Nightwolf » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:48 pm

narwal wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:11 pm
radicalization is a very real thing and your denial in understanding that and saying she "got it from CNN" is concerning
Again why do you guys keep putting words into my mouth. I just was realizing when and why this new term got put into play. I'm not denying anything. Seriously Narwal. This... this is why you guys seem so brainwashed. I was just expressing my understanding.
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by mbaxter » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm

Nightwolf wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:48 pm
narwal wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:11 pm
radicalization is a very real thing and your denial in understanding that and saying she "got it from CNN" is concerning
Again why do you guys keep putting words into my mouth. I just was realizing when and why this new term got put into play. I'm not denying anything. Seriously Narwal. This... this is why you guys seem so brainwashed. I was just expressing my understanding.
Let's play a game! Each question, please give a brief response of one short sentence. One citation minimum per question. This way it doesn't turn into some sort of Gish gallop where you provide a dozen points that each need refuting. Easy, short answers only.

1) Do you believe radicalization is a new term? Yes or no.


2) Let's remove the context of the use of the word in this thread, and talk purely about the word itself. Do you believe that radicalization, as a dictionary word, properly describes a person who has been fed half-truths until that person adopts more radical viewpoints? Again, purely talking about the word.

2a) If yes, why do you believe this term is being misused here?
2b) If no, what term do you believe should be used instead?


3) Do you believe Hitchens's razor can be used on sociopolitical statements? Why or why not?


4) How can Q-anon be an ally of the free people if, as you claim, Trump is trying to remove a still-very-powerful deepstate but Q is publicly posting his next move? Surely this is an act of sabotage disguised as support, to publicly provide to the deepstate information they can use against Trump.


5) Can Hitchens's razor be used on my above statement? Why or why not?


6) Have you noticed that when you post a 'source' you view it as fact but when we post a source you claim it is untrustworthy because it may possess some bias? Does that seem fair? Have you considered that your sources may possess motive as well?


7) What makes you a better judge of truth than the other participants in this thread?


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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Bass_Clef » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:14 pm

1. Well obviously it's a very new term. Since the advent of the so-called "90's" people were getting pretty radical with their "skate boards" and "wicked ollies." Since then the radicalization of the youth has been a very serious issue.

2. I think we can disregard what the dictionary has to say. I mean, why would you trust a thing with dick in its name, duh.

3. I think not. I know for a fact that any razor I can't shave with can't be used for anything else. It certainly couldn't be used on the above statement as it has no body hair.

4. I don't know about this q-anon or whatever his name is but if he's getting thing from Trump he must be disguised as a q-tip that trump is putting in his ear so he can read Trumps mind

5. I don't know why you like razors so much.. Do you have weak beard game?

6. When we post sources it better be for that one porn gif I found on reddit last week. Nobody is biased against titties.

7. Well in 8th grade me and my class held a mock trial and I was judge there so I think I have the appropriate qualifications.
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by narwal » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:03 am

dude you obviously know that im referring to radicalization in the sense she was using it, the sense you were discrediting. i wasnt saying you were in denial of the existence of the word, don't play semantics with me or put words in my mouth


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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Nightwolf » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:54 am

narwal wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:03 am
dude you obviously know that im referring to radicalization in the sense she was using it, the sense you were discrediting. i wasnt saying you were in denial of the existence of the word, don't play semantics with me or put words in my mouth


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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Nightwolf » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:29 am

mbaxter wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm
Nightwolf wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:48 pm
narwal wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:11 pm
radicalization is a very real thing and your denial in understanding that and saying she "got it from CNN" is concerning
Again why do you guys keep putting words into my mouth. I just was realizing when and why this new term got put into play. I'm not denying anything. Seriously Narwal. This... this is why you guys seem so brainwashed. I was just expressing my understanding.
Let's play a game! Each question, please give a brief response of one short sentence. One citation minimum per question. This way it doesn't turn into some sort of Gish gallop where you provide a dozen points that each need refuting. Easy, short answers only.

1) Do you believe radicalization is a new term? Yes or no.
By new you mean recently created or recently being commonly used? If by created no, if by commonly used yes.
mbaxter wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm
2) Let's remove the context of the use of the word in this thread, and talk purely about the word itself. Do you believe that radicalization, as a dictionary word, properly describes a person who has been fed half-truths until that person adopts more radical viewpoints? Again, purely talking about the word.

2a) If yes, why do you believe this term is being misused here?
2b) If no, what term do you believe should be used instead?
rad·i·cal·i·za·tion
/ˌradəkələˈzāSH(ə)n,ˌradəkəˌlīˈzāSH(ə)n/
noun
the action or process of causing someone to adopt radical positions on political or social issues.
"the radicalization of the intelligentsia led to the revolution"


2a) No in fact from your point of view I can see that. Inversely from my point of view the MSM has radicalized many people. From how it used to be when I first got on here and talked about conspiracies, to how it is now the attitude has completely changed.

2b) This is fine, its just talking points most people just copy from MSM and don't realize they are doing it.
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3) Do you believe Hitchens's razor can be used on sociopolitical statements? Why or why not?
That's the kind of discussion I've always wanted... just never gotten that far. Maybe one day.
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Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm
4) How can Q-anon be an ally of the free people if, as you claim, Trump is trying to remove a still-very-powerful deepstate but Q is publicly posting his next move? Surely this is an act of sabotage disguised as support, to publicly provide to the deepstate information they can use against Trump.
He his not posting his next move 100%. Things change there are moves and counter-move that always happen. So there is a general thing that will occur but the time of those things have many variables that and change the timing of when the outcome will take place. Good example will be the FISA redactions.
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Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm
5) Can Hitchens's razor be used on my above statement? Why or why not?
Yes, FISA and eventually the arrests.
mbaxter wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm
6) Have you noticed that when you post a 'source' you view it as fact but when we post a source you claim it is untrustworthy because it may possess some bias? Does that seem fair? Have you considered that your sources may possess motive as well?
What is the worth of a news organization? How can you quantify it? Do they redact statements or articles? Do we have solid proof they have an agenda against or for a certain party? Would that taint what ever they write about that certain party? If our own personal feelings line-up do we let it slide simply because we feel the same way rather than hold the facts accountable? This question fall not just in the sources credibility but more importantly in confirmation bias.

mbaxter wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm
7) What makes you a better judge of truth than the other participants in this thread?
Same question could be asked for anyone arguing their own case. Personally I tend to take a holistic methodology in thinking. I don't just look at one event and believe what ever the news says. Again I question sources, in the past I have referenced Alex Jones but I have learned that he isn't 100% credibile so I don't listen to him anymore. I continue to seek out truth where ever it may be. Most people don't do that.

Thank you for those questions. I hope I answered them, if I missed anything please let me know.
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Fufuberry » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:54 am

I saw a video of Alex Jones yelling at poop on the street the other day.

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What exactly makes this man not 100% credible?
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Nightwolf » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:33 am

Fufuberry wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:54 am
I saw a video of Alex Jones yelling at poop on the street the other day.

Edit:

What exactly makes this man not 100% credible?


Illuminati confirmed.

PS. Joking aside, I haven't listened to him for more than a decade.
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Re: The Arrests are Coming...

Post by Django » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:04 am

I find it surprising that you watched alex jones when he was unknown, instead of the modern comedy gold alex jones.
It's almost like you understand things backwards.
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