nevar forget

[PhogOlog]

I think we should nuke the world; the russians for what they did to ukraine, and also any country that has ever waged war on another country. And as for any civilians, they deserve to die for living in those countries. After the world has ended and only I and some dude i know in NY are left alive, he will call about how we are going to die soon and I will just say "it's about fucking time. serves us right." he wont really understand what i mean.

[NIPPER]

"two wrongs make a right, an eye for an eye does not make the whole world blind" - joe

joe are you for the death penalty then?

[Hellboy]

"Mass murder of Americans is justice." - Joe

[joe]

no because the death penalty is disproportionately given to minorities.

my system is not complicated: rich/imperialist/militaristic = bad.

[Pentagram.J2]

no because the death penalty is disproportionately given to minorities.

my system is not complicated: rich/imperialist/militaristic = bad.

so all people who are rich are bad? um, yeah, might want to rethink that Joe. Militaristic people certainly aren't peaceful, and nor or they saints, but they're not bad. I've met quite a few who made very valid points for going to war with another country, i mean, im always going to be a pacifist in that department, but i can definitely see where those guys are coming from. Imperialists is the one I don't know how to respond to, yes, throughout history Imperialist countries have been pretty fucked up, but I don't think that means all of them were.

[Rat-morningstar]

so yhe only innocent country and that doesn't deserve being nuked is that one based on the abandoned druilling platform

nice

[joe]

so all people who are rich are bad? um, yeah, might want to rethink that Joe. Militaristic people certainly aren't peaceful, and nor or they saints, but they're not bad. I've met quite a few who made very valid points for going to war with another country, i mean, im always going to be a pacifist in that department, but i can definitely see where those guys are coming from. Imperialists is the one I don't know how to respond to, yes, throughout history Imperialist countries have been pretty fucked up, but I don't think that means all of them were.

um no i don't need to rethink it. anyone sitting on a pile of money like scrooge mcduck while literally billions of people are without food, shelter and clean water (much less things like a decent standard of living, access to education and health care, etc.) are the personification of greed and evil and they should all be chopped up and used as mulch in our glorious agricultural paradise

[Pentagram.J2]

so all people who are rich are bad? um, yeah, might want to rethink that Joe. Militaristic people certainly aren't peaceful, and nor or they saints, but they're not bad. I've met quite a few who made very valid points for going to war with another country, i mean, im always going to be a pacifist in that department, but i can definitely see where those guys are coming from. Imperialists is the one I don't know how to respond to, yes, throughout history Imperialist countries have been pretty fucked up, but I don't think that means all of them were.

um no i don't need to rethink it. anyone sitting on a pile of money like scrooge mcduck while literally billions of people are without food, shelter and clean water (much less things like a decent standard of living, access to education and health care, etc.) are the personification of greed and evil and they should all be chopped up and used as mulch in our glorious agricultural paradise

so if i ended up getting a great job, and made a shit-load of money off it, after i worked my ass off to get there, I'm suddenly evil? Granted, I see where you're coming from, people who don't donate any of their money to charity, etc... But that's not how you originally stated it. The way you say it sounds like you're saying no one should be able to become abundant in money and be successful in life. Being rich doesn't make you evil, being greedy does. But not all rich people are greedy, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Joan Rivers, all these people are rich, and each of them contribute heavily to charities. You're argument is invalid Joe, I suggest you start over.

[joe]

if you don't use your money to promote the general welfare of those less fortunate then yes you are evil. your "great job" just like every "great job" is possible in our current world only through the exploitation of human and natural resources.

[Pentagram.J2]

if you don't use your money to promote the general welfare of those less fortunate then yes you are evil. your "great job" just like every "great job" is possible in our current world only through the exploitation of human and natural resources.

no shit sherlock, its called the economy. humans have been exploiting the natural resources WAY before the industrial revolution. Everything that humans do is a form of exploiting natural resources. So that argument is crap, and i know that being completely greedy with your money is an evil thing to do. But it is NOT evil to be rich, like you originally stated. By your standards, the only way to get rich should be by winning the Lotto.

[koko]

capitalism rules, socialism sucks

[Trizik]

abundant in money and be successful in life

pretty sure this is where you and joe disagree

you think money = success

joe thinks otherwise

correct me if i'm wrong

[CaptainTripps]

I wonder, if being rich makes you evil, does being poor make you noble?

Morality has nothing to do with your bank account. Well, not everything. The problem is avoiding the traps that money sets, which as humans we do seem especially bad at.

[NIPPER]

capitalism rules, socialism sucks

they both suck by themselves. mixed is where its at

[joe]

being rich means accepting the suffering of others when you have the means to do something about it

being poor means that's one less way you can be a dick. you can still be a dick in many other ways that don't require you to be rich.