j2 players are actually pretty good

[Little Weapon]

from playing on the many servers, i actually notice some pretty skilled players come on this server. it's too bad objectives and teamwork are not main priority.

[Neelpos]

they're usually mine

[Base]

they're usually mine

This. The only times I totally give up on the objective (I play scout, after all, I'm obsessive about capping shit), is when it's an unbelievably terrible stalemate map (such as 2fort, that one old shitty sniper map we had a while back with the canyon of spikes in the middle, etc. you get the idea) or when the mood of the server is such that people just wanna dick around as melee only or whatever. Even on rooftime I CAP DAT SHIT.

Scout, represent.

[kevkingofthesea]

Yeah, if teamwork is your goal, though, tf4 is not the place. Try tf3. Though, sometimes, tf4ers can be quite coordinated

[ZIGGO]

I just go for the headshots

[Base]

I just go for the headshots

You're fucking good enough to. I think you've only body shotted me once, every other time was a headshot. Ridiculous.

[Sidecutter]

Some of it has to do with the FF experience, I think. I routinely see myself or other J2ers cleaning clocks on random non-FF servers.

Also, I think communities like this attract and keep the better players, whereas "generic" servers just get whoever is around.

[Rat-morningstar]

FF mostly helps spies and counter-spies

a FF server grows a sixth sense that starts going "SPYSPYSPYSPYSPYSPYSPYOMFGSPY" whenever a spy is near

on the other hand, FF forces a spy to be ... sneaky

[Avvatar]

I love it when I see an obvious spy. And I shoot a rocket at him. And it lights up because it's a crit. And I get a fucking teamkill. It was just someone new to the server acting retarded and spylike.

[Axis Denied]

Yeah, one of the most annoying things about being spies in non-FF servers that I see is when a demo know a spy is around, he'll lay stickies all around an engineer and his setup. So before the engineer can finish saying "spy is sapping my sentry", the demoman just right clicks and problem solved while the engineer is unharmed.

[anon]

a FF server grows a sixth sense that starts going "SPYSPYSPYSPYSPYSPYSPYOMFGSPY" whenever a spy is near

I love doing that so much.

[Nightwolf]

a FF server grows a sixth sense that starts going "SPYSPYSPYSPYSPYSPYSPYOMFGSPY" whenever a spy is near

I love doing that so much.

I know a spy is near cuz I smell cheeze. O_o

[knoid]

from playing on the many servers, i actually notice some pretty skilled players come on this server. it's too bad objectives and teamwork are not main priority.

We have tf3 for that but you fuckers don't use it .

[Chief Cheese]

a FF server grows a sixth sense that starts going "SPYSPYSPYSPYSPYSPYSPYOMFGSPY" whenever a spy is near

I love doing that so much.

I know a spy is near cuz I smell cheeze. O_o

wait. . . what?

[Yatta!]

Well, what does cheese smell like then?

Also, spydar ftw